This is my Gengar spread list.
| Pokémon-21 4 Gastly SF 2 Haunter SF 2 Gengar SF (Fainting Spell) 1 Gengar AR (Curse) 1 Gengar LV.X AR 2 Gallade 4 RR 1 Gallade 4 LV.X RR 2 Baltoy GE 2 Claydol GE 1 Uxie LA 1 Azelf LA 1 Crobat G PL 1 Omastar MD |
Supporters-29 4 Bebe’s Search 4 Roseanne’s Research 2 Team Galatic’s Wager 4 Rare Candy 4 TGI Poké Turn 3 Warp Point 2 Night Maintenance 2 Broken Time Space 1 Miasma Stadium 1 Luxury Ball 1 Expert Belt / Premier Ball 1 Helix Fossil |
Energy-10 4 Call 6 P |
The concept of the deck is simple for the most part. You want to play Gallade 4 LV.X while you are getting a Gengar LV.X ready to “Compound Pain”. This does require a slower than normal set up. This is the only reason that I ran one “Curse” Gengar instead of two. The two “Fainting Spell” Gengar help you stay consistent. Also, what I think a lot of people don’t realize is that this is a spread deck. You are able to give up early prizes because later you can take more than one at a time, to keep yourself in the game. Being able to move damage around as you please makes it very easy to take multiple prizes at once.
I didn’t do very much testing before playing in Cities with this deck, which is why the Omastar got put in instead of another tech. The Omastar made it possible to get around the Nidoqueen. I also played Team Galactic’s Wager so that I didn’t have to over extend to KO the Nidoran. I didn’t personally play against Any SP decks, but Garchomp C LV.X does give the deck a lot of trouble. I believe the only way to beat it is to only focus on just taking 1 Prize at a time with “Poltergeist”. Good “Fainting Spell” flips always help.
Round 1 Gengar vs. Kingdra
I win the coin flip and go first. I start with Gastly and “Pitch Dark”. She starts with a Horsea and Baltoy, but can not turn one me due to the “Pitch Dark”. Next turn I KO the Horsea with a “Poltergiest”. The game only lasted a couple of turns due to her slower set up.
1-0
Round 2 Gendar vs. SP Tool Box
This wasn’t a deck that I had seen since Regionals. This deck played Weavile G and Honchcrow G.
The idea behind this deck was always good. “Call For Family” with Weavile, then “Honcho’s Command” with Honchcrow G. It is a very basic Set up for SP decks and it gives them very good set up options. I just took my time spreading damage, to the lower HP than normal Pokémon SP, and eventually won.
2-0
Round 3 Gengar vs. Uxie Rush
This match was played against no other than Rob Downs. Rob has been playing this deck on and off for a year now. He is very consistent with it and plays it very well. If I had to, I would say he is the best Uxie player. Needless to say I went first with Gastly and “Pitch Dark”. This shuts down almost the entire deck. Rod set up a couple of prizes with Crobats and Poké-Blowers but eventually ran out of steam. Gengar soon made short work of a bench filled with Uxies and Crobats.
3-0
Round 4 Gengar vs. Flyguy with Nidoqueen and Memory Berry
This round was played against a player that I recognized from my local store, so I had a pretty good idea of how he played the deck. This, so far, was the best game of the day. It was a slower because I figured, all I had to do was set up all my prizes and win in one turn. About three turns in he set a Nidoran and doesn’t evolve it by the end of the turn. By this time he has two Machamps and two Flygons all with a good amount of damage on most of them.
My turn after consisted of playing Gallade 4 LV.X, moving a damage counter to the Nidoran and dropping Crobat G, to put three damage counters on it. I finished my turn by “Shadow Rooming” the Nidoran for the KO with a leveled upped Gengar. On his turn, he “Extreme Attacks” my Gengar X. This left me with 10 HP. On my next turn, I play Omastar and he picks up two Machamps, a Flygon and two Claydols. I shuffle back his Flygon X with my Gengar’s power and Wager him. I then set up to take 3 Prizes that turn with “Compound Pain”. He then KO’d the Gengar with a Machop and my next couple of turns consisted of moving damage to an Uxie and Azelf with my “Curse” Gengar, while he locked up my Claydol with a Trapinch.
4-0
Top 4 Gengar vs. Hippos
Game 1
This game was against one of the Poké-Dads that I am quite familiar with. It turns out the Hippowdon has a very good match up against this deck because of the “Sand Reset” Poké-Power. This made it difficult to get “Compound Pain” ready to go. A turn or so down, then I Wager and catch a Hippowdon with a “Poltergeist”, and take control of the game one.
1-0
Game 2
He goes first and starts with Uxie. He attaches and attacks my fossil. My hand would have been horrible if I didn’t top the Roseanne’s Research that I did. I already had three Poké-Turns plus an Energy in my hand, so I searched for Uxie and Crobat G. I played the Crobat G and went for the turn one donk with my Uxie.
2-0
Finals Gengar vs Gengar with Mesprits
This was against Abe from Kenosha WI. At least I believe it is Kenosha. Anyway, we always end up playing at any event we are both at, and always play a mirror match of some kind. So it was no surprise that he was also running Gengar, but his version played Mesprit with no form of spread.
Game 1
Not much to say. We had each other locked with “Pitch Dark” and he started to hard evolve his Pokémon and I couldn’t respond. So I gave him Game 1.
0-1
Game 2
I had what I considered to perfect start. I started with Gallade 4, and began to spread damage while I slowly set up a Gengar.
Due to the fact that I don’t believe in Unown G, I left a Haunter there for quite awhile so that his Gengars couldn’t snipe me. We exchanged a couple of prizes, while I was still spreading and moving around damage. I then played Omastar and took the rest or my prizes to win Game 2 with “Compound Pain”. So we went on to play Game 3 with ten minutes left.
1-1
Game 3
I start with Gallade 4 and a Call Energy, and next turn I set up a Claydol and play Gallade 4 LV.X. I attach a Psychic Energy and begin doing 20 to the active, and spreading everywhere else. Time is called a couple of turns later and he had to Looker’s Investigation, himself to try to go for a prize. He couldn’t take any prizes as where I had three set up by the time the round was up.
2-1
This was my first Cities won in the two and a half years that I have been playing the game. Needless to say I was pretty excited. I wore that medal all weekend.
Congrats winning with a deck that people thought couldn’t contend in the current format. I don’t think you noticed the comments on the “Gengar: Spread with butter” post, but despite initial impressions, this deck will be present and can contend at cities.
Congrats on your win!!!!!!
Congrats winning with a deck that people thought couldn’t contend in the current format. I don’t think you noticed the comments on the “Gengar: Spread with butter” post, but despite initial impressions, this deck will be present and can contend at cities.
Congrats on your win!!!!!!
Yep his game 3 finals match was pretty amazing his opponent only needed a way to do psychic 30 damage for game but after his opponent’s horrendous draw from a 5 card Looker’s Investigation and 2 for 3 Cosmic Power with Claydol it was over. One thing though this deck pretty much auto lose to SP decks with Garchomp C.
I played the Flygon/Queen deck against you. Good game,!that Omastar drop was killer. Congrats on the win! I’m sure ill see you at more CC this season.
For sure.
That was probably my favorite game of the day.
It was just a good game in general. I dont think it was ever lop sided in either of our favors. You definetly played the deck a lot better than most I see playing it.
hey
Nice idea to combo gallade 4 with gengar. Taking both decks to another level.
Even though I dont like Gengar, I will congratulate you on a well earned victory.
Awesome report and congrats on the win!
Did the Miasma Valley ever help you out btw?
No miasma didnt do anything.
Highly doubt it did, and didn’t you play Moonlight Stadium?
Nice job. I have a gengar deck too.
Congrats on the win in Cities. I would have done Nidoking instead of Gallade 4 for a spread Gengar deck though
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Good report jeremy I haven’t been able to test it yet but i added 1 spiritomb and 1 unown q, for garchomp, figure it can help you slow their set up and help you polergeist but mainly the strategy i was thinking is try to take individual sprizs with the genagrs then if they heal w/out poketurning the garchomp that turn you can start doing the 60 switch attack and promoting spiritomb to avoid them poketurning it and power spraying you
Yep his game 3 finals match was pretty amazing his opponent only needed a way to do psychic 30 damage for game but after his opponent’s horrendous draw from a 5 card Looker’s Investigation and 2 for 3 Cosmic Power with Claydol it was over. One thing though this deck pretty much auto lose to SP decks with Garchomp C.
I played the Flygon/Queen deck against you. Good game,!that Omastar drop was killer. Congrats on the win! I’m sure ill see you at more CC this season.
For sure.
That was probably my favorite game of the day.
It was just a good game in general. I dont think it was ever lop sided in either of our favors. You definetly played the deck a lot better than most I see playing it.
For sure.
That was probably my favorite game of the day.
It was just a good game in general. I dont think it was ever lop sided in either of our favors. You definetly played the deck a lot better than most I see playing it.
hey
Nice idea to combo gallade 4 with gengar. Taking both decks to another level.
Even though I dont like Gengar, I will congratulate you on a well earned victory.
Gengar decks are really heeping! they’re all over the place! will this lead to a counter deck like a Absol deck hmm.. the world will soon find out….lol i don’t think so
Awesome report and congrats on the win!
Did the Miasma Valley ever help you out btw?
No miasma didnt do anything.
No miasma didnt do anything.
Highly doubt it did, and didn’t you play Moonlight Stadium?
Nice job. I have a gengar deck too.
Congrats on the win in Cities. I would have done Nidoking instead of Gallade 4 for a spread Gengar deck though
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Good report jeremy I haven’t been able to test it yet but i added 1 spiritomb and 1 unown q, for garchomp, figure it can help you slow their set up and help you polergeist but mainly the strategy i was thinking is try to take individual sprizs with the genagrs then if they heal w/out poketurning the garchomp that turn you can start doing the 60 switch attack and promoting spiritomb to avoid them poketurning it and power spraying you
Good report jeremy I haven’t been able to test it yet but i added 1 spiritomb and 1 unown q, for garchomp, figure it can help you slow their set up and help you polergeist but mainly the strategy i was thinking is try to take individual sprizs with the genagrs then if they heal w/out poketurning the garchomp that turn you can start doing the 60 switch attack and promoting spiritomb to avoid them poketurning it and power spraying you
Congratulations on the win! I’ve been working with this deck for awhile. Does the AR Gengar do a lot for you? Is it mainly just for Curse? Right now I just run 3 SF Gengar. Is the Wager mainly just for post-Omastar? Speaking of Omastar, were you happy with how it worked for you? As far as a 2-card tech line, Dialga G LV.X can also counter Nidoqueen by shutting off Maternal Comfort, a surprise Dusknoir DP can Dark Palm her back into the deck, and I’ve also thought about Metagross RR, but then you’re pretty much hopeless against Nidoqueen.
Sorry to overload you with questions, but I could use a bit of advice from someone who has had success with this deck. Thanks!
Congratulations on the win! I’ve been working with this deck for awhile. Does the AR Gengar do a lot for you? Is it mainly just for Curse? Right now I just run 3 SF Gengar. Is the Wager mainly just for post-Omastar? Speaking of Omastar, were you happy with how it worked for you? As far as a 2-card tech line, Dialga G LV.X can also counter Nidoqueen by shutting off Maternal Comfort, a surprise Dusknoir DP can Dark Palm her back into the deck, and I’ve also thought about Metagross RR, but then you’re pretty much hopeless against Nidoqueen.
Sorry to overload you with questions, but I could use a bit of advice from someone who has had success with this deck. Thanks!
The SF gengar is amazing.
I still want to play two and one fainting spell but i think i could be the worst thing to do to the deck.
I never thought about dusknoir, i think i might actually try that.
The wager is also my tech against that stupid gliscor deck, i guess.
The SF gengar is amazing.
I still want to play two and one fainting spell but i think i could be the worst thing to do to the deck.
I never thought about dusknoir, i think i might actually try that.
The wager is also my tech against that stupid gliscor deck, i guess.
Congratulations on the win! I’ve been working with this deck for awhile. Does the AR Gengar do a lot for you? Is it mainly just for Curse? Right now I just run 3 SF Gengar. Is the Wager mainly just for post-Omastar? Speaking of Omastar, were you happy with how it worked for you? As far as a 2-card tech line, Dialga G LV.X can also counter Nidoqueen by shutting off Maternal Comfort, a surprise Dusknoir DP can Dark Palm her back into the deck, and I’ve also thought about Metagross RR, but then you’re pretty much hopeless against Nidoqueen.
Sorry to overload you with questions, but I could use a bit of advice from someone who has had success with this deck. Thanks!
The SF gengar is amazing.
I still want to play two and one fainting spell but i think i could be the worst thing to do to the deck.
I never thought about dusknoir, i think i might actually try that.
The wager is also my tech against that stupid gliscor deck, i guess.
Gratz on the win and nice report.
Gengar decks are really heeping! they’re all over the place! will this lead to a counter deck like a Absol deck hmm.. the world will soon find out….lol i don’t think so
Gengar decks are really heeping! they’re all over the place! will this lead to a counter deck like a Absol deck hmm.. the world will soon find out….lol i don’t think so
Gratz on the win and nice report.
Gratz on the win and nice report.
Congrats on the win! Even that and at the moment you are the only one to win a city using Gengar. (In Masters) Didn’t think about running gengar with Omastar. I was wondering why gengar has not been in the winning brackets lately…
I think people are just playing it wrong.
The deck has to be played different than other expect.
Players see genger and think, ok get unown g and get around fainting spell.
well this deck focuses around spreading.
so when you start doing damage instead of placing it.
people dont know what to do.
Congrats on the win! Even that and at the moment you are the only one to win a city using Gengar. (In Masters) Didn’t think about running gengar with Omastar. I was wondering why gengar has not been in the winning brackets lately…
I think people are just playing it wrong.
The deck has to be played different than other expect.
Players see genger and think, ok get unown g and get around fainting spell.
well this deck focuses around spreading.
so when you start doing damage instead of placing it.
people dont know what to do.
I think people are just playing it wrong.
The deck has to be played different than other expect.
Players see genger and think, ok get unown g and get around fainting spell.
well this deck focuses around spreading.
so when you start doing damage instead of placing it.
people dont know what to do.
Congrats on the win! Even that and at the moment you are the only one to win a city using Gengar. (In Masters) Didn’t think about running gengar with Omastar. I was wondering why gengar has not been in the winning brackets lately…
Congrats on the win man, very interesting deck you used. It seems to be pretty consistent in good playability since you managed to get quite a few wins. =) Thanks for the good report.
Great article and congrats on the win. your deck seems nice and consistant.
Great article and congrats on the win. your deck seems nice and consistant.
Congrats on the win man, very interesting deck you used. It seems to be pretty consistent in good playability since you managed to get quite a few wins. =) Thanks for the good report.
Congrats on the win!
Congrats on the win!
Congrats on the win!
I like the Omastar idea. Nice rounds.
I like the Omastar idea. Nice rounds.
I like the Omastar idea. Nice rounds.
would abomasnow work with this?
would abomasnow work with this?
would abomasnow work with this?
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