When Platinum Arceus came out, I immediately recognized that Gengar LV.X was good with Gengar PA with Curse. I then tested a deck that contained a Nido Queen and King which both aid Gengar. Nidoqueen is mainly for healing Gengar LV.X and Nidoking is for damaging your opponent’s attackers.
The Strategy
The strategy is to get a Nidoking out, 2 Gengars, 1 with Curse and the other either the SF one or the other PA one, your choice, and finally a Gengar LV.X. This is the main goal for turns 4-5. Then you can start moving damage around and doing more with both “Compound Pain” and “Territoriality”. This will do 50 a turn to the active (if it has damage when using Compound Pain), and 30 to each bench that has damage.
This will spread very easily and you just use Curse to get damage to Pokémon without damage. Then you will try to get Nidoqueen out to heal your Pokémon so that your Gengars aren’t Knocked Out as easily. Also, you will try to get a Uxie LV.X out to get some “Trade-Off” going, as this just acts as a Pokédex Handy 910 every turn.
Now, you may think this deck will get destroyed by a SP deck but that is not true because in my version, I tech in a Spiritomb PA to stop the opponent and help myself set-up.
Alternative techs for this deck include:
Gallade 4 LV.X RR
Spiritomb LA
Ampharos SW
Metagross SV
Machamp SF
The Decklist (Everybody loves this part!)
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Pokémon: 26 4× Gastly SF 2× Haunter AR (Hidden Poison) 2× Gengar AR (Curse) 1× Gengar SF 1× Gengar LV.X AR 2× Nidoran > RR 1× Nidorino RR 2× Nidoking RR 1× Nidoran + RR 1× Nidoqueen RR 2× Uxie LA 1× Uxie LV.X LA 2× Spiritomb PA 1× Azelf LA 1× Baltoy GE 1× Claydol GE 1× Crobat G PL |
Trainers: 24 4× Roseannes Research 4× Bebe’s Search 1× Luxury Ball 2× Lookers Investigation 2× Pokédex Handy 910is 3× Rare Candy 2× Broken Time-Space 1× Moonlight Stadium 2× Warp Point 2× Night Maintenance 1× TGI Poké Turn |
Energies: 10 7× P 3× Call |
This is the decklist I have been testing and it has done well against the following decks:
Landshark(Garchomp SV)
Queengar
SP (BlazeRay and Luxray GL/Honchcrow G)
I have played 2 games with each one and the Gengar and Nidoking deck went 5 for 6 only losing to Queengar once. The Queengar list I used was Jason Marinez’s list by the way.
Well, please post suggestions on how I could improve this deck. Thanks!
Nice deck. I like the idea but I think you should put in two gengar sf.
great deck.
Enough with the gengar articles!
(sorry, nothing personal, and nothing wrong about this article either)
This is very interesting and seems decent. Im not to sure about two pokedex though, its good in 3’s or 4’s but other than that it doesnt help a whole lot. Try putting volkners in place of pokedex. Its more consistant and will help lots more.But like kiwill said enough with gengar.
This is very interesting and seems decent. Im not to sure about two pokedex though, its good in 3’s or 4’s but other than that it doesnt help a whole lot. Try putting volkners in place of pokedex. Its more consistant and will help lots more.But like kiwill said enough with gengar.
This is very interesting and seems decent. Im not to sure about two pokedex though, its good in 3’s or 4’s but other than that it doesnt help a whole lot. Try putting volkners in place of pokedex. Its more consistant and will help lots more.But like kiwill said enough with gengar.
I’d also max out the Rare Candy, since you’ve got 6 Stage 2’s in this deck. Also the 1 Poke Turn seems kinda odd, maybe cut that or change it to two. The deck seems pretty slow, but maybe those multiple prizes mid-late game fix for it.
And what Kiwill said, there are too much Gengar articles, especially if you don’t like Gengar(yeah, I don’t).
LOL i guess everybody doesnt like gengar as muxh.
But i have 3 candies and 2 pokedexs cause of spiritomb who helps set up. Also, uxie lvx has a built in pokedex. and maybe ill cut the poketurn for the 3rd pokedex or the 4th candy.thx for the suggestions
Nice deck. I like the idea but I think you should put in two gengar sf.
great deck.
Nice deck. I like the idea but I think you should put in two gengar sf.
great deck.
This deck seems overteched, You need four rare candies.
This deck seems overteched, You need four rare candies.
This deck seems overteched, You need four rare candies.
As the others say max the rare candy and put 1 more Gengar SF. It may seem a little bit overteched, but it did well against those decks which means it probably works fine. Nice Article.
thx random guy and also i think ill take out poketurn for a rare candy as i said earlier.
I agree with randomGuy.{love the gengars.
Enough with the gengar articles!
(sorry, nothing personal, and nothing wrong about this article either)
Enough with the gengar articles!
(sorry, nothing personal, and nothing wrong about this article either)
I’d also max out the Rare Candy, since you’ve got 6 Stage 2’s in this deck. Also the 1 Poke Turn seems kinda odd, maybe cut that or change it to two. The deck seems pretty slow, but maybe those multiple prizes mid-late game fix for it.
And what Kiwill said, there are too much Gengar articles, especially if you don’t like Gengar(yeah, I don’t).
I’d also max out the Rare Candy, since you’ve got 6 Stage 2’s in this deck. Also the 1 Poke Turn seems kinda odd, maybe cut that or change it to two. The deck seems pretty slow, but maybe those multiple prizes mid-late game fix for it.
And what Kiwill said, there are too much Gengar articles, especially if you don’t like Gengar(yeah, I don’t).
LOL i guess everybody doesnt like gengar as muxh.
But i have 3 candies and 2 pokedexs cause of spiritomb who helps set up. Also, uxie lvx has a built in pokedex. and maybe ill cut the poketurn for the 3rd pokedex or the 4th candy.thx for the suggestions
LOL i guess everybody doesnt like gengar as muxh.
But i have 3 candies and 2 pokedexs cause of spiritomb who helps set up. Also, uxie lvx has a built in pokedex. and maybe ill cut the poketurn for the 3rd pokedex or the 4th candy.thx for the suggestions
As the others say max the rare candy and put 1 more Gengar SF. It may seem a little bit overteched, but it did well against those decks which means it probably works fine. Nice Article.
As the others say max the rare candy and put 1 more Gengar SF. It may seem a little bit overteched, but it did well against those decks which means it probably works fine. Nice Article.
thx random guy and also i think ill take out poketurn for a rare candy as i said earlier.
thx random guy and also i think ill take out poketurn for a rare candy as i said earlier.
Saying you can stop SP decks by playing 2 Spiritombs sounds extremely faulty and unconvincing. Spiritombs only hold them back for so long and then the flood gates upon, and especially faster if they get 2 energies and one of their lv X’s out like Luxray and Blaziken to one shot the basics.
I agree with randomGuy.{love the gengars.
I agree with randomGuy.{love the gengars.
I think you need 4 Poke Drawer for sure. Take the Pokedex out, I am not sure why you are using them. Take the Lookers out too.
Use 4 Candy and 1 BTS.
I’d use 2 Gengar SF.
Not really sure about Nidoking, it seems so susceptible to being trapped active. I would rather use something else as a tech, King just seems kind iffy.
Also I would use 2/2 Claydol, but that’s just my preference.
Thanks for the article tho. :) Can’t get enough Gengar. ;)
Lookers helps to set up Poltergeist though. But I guess it is a players choice.
There is no reason this shouldn’t have 4 Call Energy. That’s a no-brainer. I too fear Nidoking can be stuck active, as 2 Warps aren’t a cure-all. I’d go 2/2 Claydol before putting in Uxie Lv. X, too.
Saying you can stop SP decks by playing 2 Spiritombs sounds extremely faulty and unconvincing. Spiritombs only hold them back for so long and then the flood gates upon, and especially faster if they get 2 energies and one of their lv X’s out like Luxray and Blaziken to one shot the basics.
Saying you can stop SP decks by playing 2 Spiritombs sounds extremely faulty and unconvincing. Spiritombs only hold them back for so long and then the flood gates upon, and especially faster if they get 2 energies and one of their lv X’s out like Luxray and Blaziken to one shot the basics.
I think you need 4 Poke Drawer for sure. Take the Pokedex out, I am not sure why you are using them. Take the Lookers out too.
Use 4 Candy and 1 BTS.
I’d use 2 Gengar SF.
Not really sure about Nidoking, it seems so susceptible to being trapped active. I would rather use something else as a tech, King just seems kind iffy.
Also I would use 2/2 Claydol, but that’s just my preference.
Thanks for the article tho. :) Can’t get enough Gengar. ;)
Lookers helps to set up Poltergeist though. But I guess it is a players choice.
Lookers helps to set up Poltergeist though. But I guess it is a players choice.
I think you need 4 Poke Drawer for sure. Take the Pokedex out, I am not sure why you are using them. Take the Lookers out too.
Use 4 Candy and 1 BTS.
I’d use 2 Gengar SF.
Not really sure about Nidoking, it seems so susceptible to being trapped active. I would rather use something else as a tech, King just seems kind iffy.
Also I would use 2/2 Claydol, but that’s just my preference.
Thanks for the article tho. :) Can’t get enough Gengar. ;)
There is no reason this shouldn’t have 4 Call Energy. That’s a no-brainer. I too fear Nidoking can be stuck active, as 2 Warps aren’t a cure-all. I’d go 2/2 Claydol before putting in Uxie Lv. X, too.
There is no reason this shouldn’t have 4 Call Energy. That’s a no-brainer. I too fear Nidoking can be stuck active, as 2 Warps aren’t a cure-all. I’d go 2/2 Claydol before putting in Uxie Lv. X, too.
hmmm i guess not much people like gengar as kiwill says but i do hehehehe (no offence) but i would really love it if 6p post something abt cresselia and i don know(gengar, flygon) becoz I JUST LOVE MOON SKIP. and i also thing a good deck must have a maximum if 19-22 pkmn and 27-33 trainers etc. 11-14 energy dont u think so? becoz i hate playing with lotsa pkmn just 3 types like rhyperior delcatty spiritomb is more than enough(thats my deck)
sry thing in line 3 word 3 is think*
just wondering which is the best supporter pkmn… furret with its keen eye drifblim with lifting budew with buddy-buddy spiritomb with darkness grace sableye with impersonate. i want ur help in over all such as for furret and drifblim they are stage 1 ryt so its not really good for a first turn plzz help
Bolt,
I think it all depends on what deck yo are running and what kind of starting support you actually need. I find the best thing to do is analyze your needs and then find the Pokemon that best meets those needs.
hmmm i guess not much people like gengar as kiwill says but i do hehehehe (no offence) but i would really love it if 6p post something abt cresselia and i don know(gengar, flygon) becoz I JUST LOVE MOON SKIP. and i also thing a good deck must have a maximum if 19-22 pkmn and 27-33 trainers etc. 11-14 energy dont u think so? becoz i hate playing with lotsa pkmn just 3 types like rhyperior delcatty spiritomb is more than enough(thats my deck)
hmmm i guess not much people like gengar as kiwill says but i do hehehehe (no offence) but i would really love it if 6p post something abt cresselia and i don know(gengar, flygon) becoz I JUST LOVE MOON SKIP. and i also thing a good deck must have a maximum if 19-22 pkmn and 27-33 trainers etc. 11-14 energy dont u think so? becoz i hate playing with lotsa pkmn just 3 types like rhyperior delcatty spiritomb is more than enough(thats my deck)
sry thing in line 3 word 3 is think*
sry thing in line 3 word 3 is think*
just wondering which is the best supporter pkmn… furret with its keen eye drifblim with lifting budew with buddy-buddy spiritomb with darkness grace sableye with impersonate. i want ur help in over all such as for furret and drifblim they are stage 1 ryt so its not really good for a first turn plzz help
Bolt,
I think it all depends on what deck yo are running and what kind of starting support you actually need. I find the best thing to do is analyze your needs and then find the Pokemon that best meets those needs.
Bolt,
I think it all depends on what deck yo are running and what kind of starting support you actually need. I find the best thing to do is analyze your needs and then find the Pokemon that best meets those needs.
just wondering which is the best supporter pkmn… furret with its keen eye drifblim with lifting budew with buddy-buddy spiritomb with darkness grace sableye with impersonate. i want ur help in over all such as for furret and drifblim they are stage 1 ryt so its not really good for a first turn plzz help
I think ill test 4 pokedrawer by taking out pokedex and lookers and see how it goes. And i also am using 2 gengar sf now. Also since i use a candy instead of poketurn, ill take out crobat g and uxie lvx for 2-2 claydol. With all these changes, i might just change the nidoking line to 1-1 and add machamp for SP decks.But i might add flygon for retreat instead and take out a warp point for 1 more call too.
Sounds interesting, flygon in this deck. Try mewtwo instead of machamp to help against sp since your already running the psychic energy.
I think ill test 4 pokedrawer by taking out pokedex and lookers and see how it goes. And i also am using 2 gengar sf now. Also since i use a candy instead of poketurn, ill take out crobat g and uxie lvx for 2-2 claydol. With all these changes, i might just change the nidoking line to 1-1 and add machamp for SP decks.But i might add flygon for retreat instead and take out a warp point for 1 more call too.
I think ill test 4 pokedrawer by taking out pokedex and lookers and see how it goes. And i also am using 2 gengar sf now. Also since i use a candy instead of poketurn, ill take out crobat g and uxie lvx for 2-2 claydol. With all these changes, i might just change the nidoking line to 1-1 and add machamp for SP decks.But i might add flygon for retreat instead and take out a warp point for 1 more call too.
Sounds interesting, flygon in this deck. Try mewtwo instead of machamp to help against sp since your already running the psychic energy.
Sounds interesting, flygon in this deck. Try mewtwo instead of machamp to help against sp since your already running the psychic energy.
Why are there so many pokemon in this deck?
How do you ever intend on starting with anything good.
Also I am going to agree with Chan and say spiritomb isnt going to stop any sp deck.
Why are there so many pokemon in this deck?
How do you ever intend on starting with anything good.
Also I am going to agree with Chan and say spiritomb isnt going to stop any sp deck.
Why are there so many pokemon in this deck?
How do you ever intend on starting with anything good.
Also I am going to agree with Chan and say spiritomb isnt going to stop any sp deck.
26 pokemon is a fine amount and also, i never said i could stop sp. I just said i could slow it down and try to set up the spread part of the deck. Also, spread might hurt sp because most sp have 80-100 hp (non lvx) and curse can move around energies. Also, im considering taking out the 2 spiritomb ar for either a 1-0-1 flygon, machamp, or metagross tech.
26 pokemon is a fine amount and also, i never said i could stop sp. I just said i could slow it down and try to set up the spread part of the deck. Also, spread might hurt sp because most sp have 80-100 hp (non lvx) and curse can move around energies. Also, im considering taking out the 2 spiritomb ar for either a 1-0-1 flygon, machamp, or metagross tech.
26 pokemon is a fine amount and also, i never said i could stop sp. I just said i could slow it down and try to set up the spread part of the deck. Also, spread might hurt sp because most sp have 80-100 hp (non lvx) and curse can move around energies. Also, im considering taking out the 2 spiritomb ar for either a 1-0-1 flygon, machamp, or metagross tech.
Ive think you got a large Nidoking line.
I quess that 1-0-1 will be ok to use. more poke turn and crobat.
Ive made som changes that Ive think may be a good idea. :D
Pokemon: 24
4x Gastly SF
2x Haunter SF
1x Gengar AR (Curse)
2x Gengar SF
1x Gengar LV.X AR
1x Nidoran Male RR
1x Nidoking RR
1x Nidoran Female RR
1x Nidoqueen RR
2x Uxie LA
2x Spiritomb PA
2x Baltoy GE
2x Claydol GE
2x Crobat G PL Trainers: 25
3x Roseannes Research
4x Bebe’s Search
1x Luxury Ball
2x Lookers Investigation
4x Rare Candy
2x Broken Time-Space
2x Moonlight Stadium
1x Warp Point
2x Night Maintenance
4x TGI Poke Turn Energies: 11
7x Psychic Energy
4x Call Energy
Ive think you got a large Nidoking line.
I quess that 1-0-1 will be ok to use. more poke turn and crobat.
Ive made som changes that Ive think may be a good idea. :D
Pokemon: 24
4x Gastly SF
2x Haunter SF
1x Gengar AR (Curse)
2x Gengar SF
1x Gengar LV.X AR
1x Nidoran Male RR
1x Nidoking RR
1x Nidoran Female RR
1x Nidoqueen RR
2x Uxie LA
2x Spiritomb PA
2x Baltoy GE
2x Claydol GE
2x Crobat G PL Trainers: 25
3x Roseannes Research
4x Bebe’s Search
1x Luxury Ball
2x Lookers Investigation
4x Rare Candy
2x Broken Time-Space
2x Moonlight Stadium
1x Warp Point
2x Night Maintenance
4x TGI Poke Turn Energies: 11
7x Psychic Energy
4x Call Energy
Ive think you got a large Nidoking line.
I quess that 1-0-1 will be ok to use. more poke turn and crobat.
Ive made som changes that Ive think may be a good idea. :D
Pokemon: 24
4x Gastly SF
2x Haunter SF
1x Gengar AR (Curse)
2x Gengar SF
1x Gengar LV.X AR
1x Nidoran Male RR
1x Nidoking RR
1x Nidoran Female RR
1x Nidoqueen RR
2x Uxie LA
2x Spiritomb PA
2x Baltoy GE
2x Claydol GE
2x Crobat G PL Trainers: 25
3x Roseannes Research
4x Bebe’s Search
1x Luxury Ball
2x Lookers Investigation
4x Rare Candy
2x Broken Time-Space
2x Moonlight Stadium
1x Warp Point
2x Night Maintenance
4x TGI Poke Turn Energies: 11
7x Psychic Energy
4x Call Energy
awesome deck but improvements can be made:
rare candy and broken time space are needed vitaly!
and maybe put in a claydol GE instead of a nidoking set
awesome deck but improvements can be made:
rare candy and broken time space are needed vitaly!
and maybe put in a claydol GE instead of a nidoking set
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