Last Minute Playtesting Tips and How Canadian Nats Will Affect the Metagame

Hello everyone! Today I’m going to be talking about last minute playtesting skills and how the Canadian Nationals will impact the United States metagame!

Last Minute Playtesting

1. Use the deck that you will be playing at Nationals. Start playing that deck against other decks and see how it fares. Play around with other decks too to see how they run and how to counter them. You can’t beat something until you know it.

2. Be serious when testing. Don’t go totally hardcore, but be nice and if someone asks to take something back you should usually let them. At Nationals you’ll be in a very different mood and it’ll be hard to make mistakes unless you’re not paying attention.

3. Play against as many decks as you can and never cancel another deck out. Anything can come from behind.

4. You can play on Redshark, Apprentice, Skype, or PlayTCG. All work great and are great testing tools!

Deck Help

Try to make any final tweaks to perfect you’re deck! Try any cards that you think might have an impact on your deck. Last year in my Jumpluff build, I tried all kinds of things. I tried AMU, Manectric, and a lot of other things. You don’t know for sure it won’t work until you try it.

Helpful Hints

If you’re struggling to decide between a few cards to put in your deck, make multiple-card proxies. They could have different cards that could be situational, and use whichever one works better in the situation. Then you choose which one to put in your deck according to whatever works the best.

What we’ve learned from the Canadian Nationals (All in masters results):

Standings After Day 1 (Top 16) (Masters):

7-0 Reed M (Yanmega / Kingdra)
6-1 Julian W (Yanmega / Magnezone)
6-1 Charles D (Yanmega / Donphan / Weavile)
6-1 Alaric McKenzie-B (Ambipom / Weavile)
6-1 Simon L (Emboar / Magnezone)
6-1 Sebastian C (Yanmega / Magnezone)
6-1 Edward K (Emboar / Reshiram / Zekrom)
5-2 Andrew V (Yanmega / Magnezone)
5-2 Juan Carlos L (Yanmega / Vileplume / Muk / Mew / Jumpluff)
5-2 Sebastien P (Yanmega / Zekrom)
5-2 Matthew K (Yanmega / Vileplume / Muk/ Mew / Jumpluff)
5-2 Curtis L (Yanmega / Vileplume / Muk/ Mew / Jumpluff)
5-2 Colman F (Cincinno / Donphan)
5-2 Matthew B (Gengar)
5-2 Zach L (Emboar / Magnezone)
5-2 Sean La R (Blastoise / Feraligatr)
5-2 Sebastian S (Cincinno / Kingdra)

Looking at these standings, there’s a lot of things to be discussed.

Secret Decks

There are a lot of secret decks floating around. You’ll need a perfect list to get them going, so I wouldn’t suggest trying to make them.

Yanmega/Magnezone

pokebeach.comThere’s also a lot of new decks we haven’t talked about much. Yanmega/Magnezone or MegaJudge hasn’t been played much ever except at the Georgia Marathon. Since Yanmega/Magnezone was played so much, I bet a lot of people will try it at the U.S. Nationals.

Now unless you’ve been testing the deck, I wouldn’t suggest you make a last minute change. Now if you want to test against it with a nice list, here’s a great article by Zack Ayello, the Yanmega Guy himself.

The Absence of DonChamp

Why wasn’t DonChamp played? Well supposedly a lot of people lied they were running DonChamp so people played counters to it. I really don’t see why there wasn’t even one in the Top 16, but that’s life.

I thought MagneBoar was going to be played a ton?

There was two that made the cut which is better than no DonChamps making cut, but I don’t really understand this either. Maybe people were just running Yanmega/Magnezone for fast attacks and consistency. MagneBoar can be inconsistent at times and slow. MegaJudge however is very fast and snipes early to disrupt, and Magnezone and help with draw and clean to board off at the end of the game with big attacks.

Why so many disruptive decks?

Pretty much every deck in this format can be disrupted easily and you can by doing this ruin their setup. The Ambipom/Weavile deck was pretty simple, use Ambipom to attack by shuffling multiple cards from their hand at once at once and using Weavile to discard cards and ruin their hand.

I’m assuming they played multiple Judge counts to give them a hand of four and then destroy the new hand and sometimes even drop their hand to zero leaving them with nothing to work with.

What is Yanmega/Kingdra?

pokebeach.comIt’s a very fast spread and snipe deck. You can just setup the Yanmega start sniping around and use Kingdra’s Spray Splash to add to the attack and KO basics before they can evolve. This can be a very disruptive tactic along with playing Judge to ruin their hand and let Yanmega attack for free.

How did LostGar top cut?

LostGar is very good in this format because it can snipe babies, and get rid of need Pokémon from your opponents hand. I don’t think it will go far in top cut, because of the time limit, but it’s a good x-2 drop deck for U.S. Nats.

BastGatr instead of BlastZel?

I don’t really know how this happened. BlastGatr unlike MagneBoar has no draw to keep it consistent, and it’s two Stage Twos we’re talking about… I don’t really understand this because the deck was very inconsistent even last format, but I guess if the deck can setup, it can roll out the damage and hit hard.

Top Two

Masters

1st Edward – ZPS/Yanmega
2nd Reed – Kingdra/Yanmega/Jirachi

What to think of the top two?

pokebeach.com

Speed decks seem to be where it’s at. ZPS/Yanmega winning seems very surprising, but you can never cancel another deck out completely. Second was a new deck: Kingdra/Yanmega/Jirachi. Kingdra and Yanmega are speedy cards that can get cheap and quick KOs. The Jirachi tech was well thought out and a nice inclusion to get even more quick knockouts.

Conclusion

Will Canadian Nats impact U.S. Nats? Of course. Many people will bust out Magnezone/Yanmega just because it did good. I don’t like the theory behind this, but some people will do anything to win. It’s just the way it is. I think MegaJudge will have some impact on the United States metagame because of the disruption and consistency.

I hope everyone enjoys this article and does awesome at their Nationals!

Reader Interactions

29 replies

  1. Ryan

    Awesome article! I played Megajudge at Regionals and got third. It’s a very consistent deck and dishes out tons of damage fast. I think it will see a fair amount of play at Nationals.

  2. Anonymous

    “LostGar is very good in this format because it can snipe babies…”

    What?

    • Sam Stevens  → Anonymous

      ”Cursed Drop” to place 3 counters on a baby even if its asleep and lost zone it at the same time (assuming Gengar Prime did the attack and not Mew Prime copycatting it (its like a little pink cat) as Mew doesn’t copy Poke-Body’s) … Although it’s better to stay behind in prizes for Twins, if you played Alph Lithograph you can choose the important card in your prizes and lost zone a Pokemon at the same time

      • Anonymous  → Sam

        Oohhhh… I’m bad at multi-tasking so I didn’t think of all that lol. Still, “Hurling” 2-3 Pokemon at a time is more effective than sniping.

        • Sam Stevens  → Anonymous

          Yea “hurl” is the way to go, but if they have nothing to “hurl” and you know an important card is prized then you can get that prize and get 1 more lost zoned easy as… Otherwise LostGar decks have to play out the whole game without getting a chance at that important card

  3. Garrett Williamson

    Am I the only one that knows that Yanmega/magnezone isn’t new? back during cities it gained some hype after winning one.

    • tim h  → Garrett

      Using an attacker that attacks with a lot of energy with one which doesn’t attack for a lot of energy is an obvious combo… not new, as you said.

      Donchamp; except that magnezone has extra draw, and machamp has fighting tag.

  4. Sam Stevens

    ZPS wins on speed value and Magnezone Prime is the best late game attacker and draw engine, so why not just ZPS-Zone with Ruins of Alpha to get rid of Donphan Prime’s resistance (so Magnezone can KO it with only 3 energy instead of 4 energy needing to be lost zoned) or a small line (1-0-1 ??) of Samurott to flat out annihilate it (Samurott takes the same energy count as Zekrom’s 3, and can run on Electric energy. So Pachirisu/Shaymin combo works for it as well) … That seems consistent, fast, powerful late game presence and good match ups all around

    • Anonymous  → Sam

      Man u let out my SD. Haha. I’ve been working on a list for this for about a month. I’m not playing it at nays because my lisr just doesn’t “feel right.” It would be good to see this work though.

      • Sam Stevens  → Anonymous

        I have been testing this deck for awhile and found it wins 9/10 times in a Meta that doesn’t have DonChamp (except my own). so i have not been able to test against the decks hardest match up, but i am confident in its power none the less. It’s just getting the Trainer lines exactly right that’s the hard part

      • Sam Stevens  → Anonymous

        I have been testing this deck for awhile and found it wins 9/10 times in a Meta that doesn’t have DonChamp (except my own). so i have not been able to test against the decks hardest match up, but i am confident in its power none the less. It’s just getting the Trainer lines exactly right that’s the hard part

  5. Dan W

     Meh. Seems a little rushed to me.
    These Nats will have a little effect on US, nut not much. People already picked their decks. They’re just deciding on techs e.g Yanmega.

  6. David Griggs

    Seems like this article could’ve used some extra time in editing.

  7. Edgar F

    A fair chunk of the folks in top cut were locals I know personally; the Blastgatr was a teammate and I can tell you he got lucky. I wouldn’t be freaking out “blastgatr > blastzel” – honestly, I know half of top cut and this format was a LOT of luck.

    Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery though…I certainly recognize a LOT of these decks from my early writings on HS-on here and on Pokebeach, as well as just team meetings with the local crowd. Reshiphlosion almost had two or three top cuts as well, with every single one played hitting top 32.

  8. Poet Larsen

    would someone help me find a decklist or two for Megajudge. I’ve been wanting to build it but I need some help

  9. wisconsinsquad

    Looking at the comments I’m sorry it seemed rushed. In the future I will really try to slow down. 

  10. wisconsinsquad

    All results were according to this: http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=150160

  11. wisconsinsquad

    All results were according to this: http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=150160

  12. Emil lumen

    How did a ambipom Deck make it to the top 16!? Is Cleffa not available in Canada? Cause a lot of good decks run cleffas for reasons like this! lmao

    Bravo to that dude for topping 16.

    • Anonymous  → Emil

      His deck snipped Cleffas and it is still hard to recover from the disruption. Just think about it:

      -His turn: he judges you, then uses astonish to reduce your hand to 2 cards (he might even get that Weavile down to reduce your hand to 1 card)

      -Your Turn: you play your one or two cards and then use Eeeeeek. Yay, you now have 6 cards to work with.

      -His turn: He either plays Judge to reduce you down to four and then astonishes to send you back to a hand size of two. Or he Seekers to replay Weavile to take you to five and then astonishes to send you back to 3.

      -Your Turn: you have two or three cards to work with.

      It is hard to recover from, and Cleffa is not a cure all to this situation because you do not get to immediately play the cards you just Eeeeeeked for.

      • Emil lumen  → Anonymous

        Your right he can do all that. This deck was probably new to everyone at nationals and because of that, they weren’t prepared for something like that. 
        Cleffa is not a cure but its a good treatment. 

      • Emil lumen  → Anonymous

        Your right he can do all that. This deck was probably new to everyone at nationals and because of that, they weren’t prepared for something like that. 
        Cleffa is not a cure but its a good treatment. 

  13. aura

    Ambipom/Weavile… MUST BUILD!!! A monkey and a ninja with a judge… just too EPIC.

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