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Crunching the Inter-Nationals Numbers and a Personal Favorite Pick

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Good morning, or depending on when you’re reading this, good afternoon, good evening, or good night. Now, it’s been a little while since I wrote for this lovely website and for that I can only apologise, but for this coming season I shall be aiming to write more as well as start properly expanding my YouTube channel, which I’ve already started doing.

I have however been keeping well up to date with my podcast, so I heartily recommend getting yourself down to check up on that. Long story short, I managed to take 5th at the ECC (European Challenge Cup, the annual biggest tournament in Europe with 300+ players in the Netherlands) with Flareon and then pretty much did nothing else of real note (aside from a couple Cities and LC top cuts).

So, the reason I’m back today is to talk about the play for US Nationals. I’m a fan of blind speculation, but, as listeners of my podcast will know, I like to examine the facts. There have been 12 National Championships that have so far taken place with Flashfire legal (sorry Germany and the others, but your results are already out of date) and the results were as follows (thanks to various sources and for helping put these together):

Week 1

  • Argentina
  • Austria
  • France
    • Winner: Yveltal
    • Top Cut: 2 Yveltal, 2 VirGen, 3 Miltank (2 Empoleon, 1 Greninja), 1 Plasma
  • Italy
    • Winner: Yveltal
    • Top Cut: 1 Plasma, 3 Yveltal, 2 Trevenant, 2 VirGen
  • Philippines
    • Winner: VirGen
    • Top Cut: 1 VirGen, 3 Yveltal, 3 Aromatisse (1 Plasma, 2 Kangaskhan), 1 Palkia
  • UK
    • Winner: Yveltal
    • Top Cut: 4 Yveltal, 2 Virgen, 1 Aromatisse/Plasma, 1 Plasma/Lugia

Week 2

  • Belgium
    • Winner: Yveltal
    • Top Cut: 3 Yveltal, 3 VirGen, 1 Garchomp, 1 Aromatisse
  • Czech Republic
    • Winner: Pyroar/Landorus/Mewtwo
    • Top Cut: 4 Yveltal, 2 Pyroar, 1 Plasma, 1 VirGen
  • Indonesia
    • Winner: Plasma
    • Top Cut: 2 Yveltal, 1 Plasma, 1 Big Basics
  • Norway
  • Poland
    • Winner: Plasma
    • Top Cut: 5 Yveltal, 1 Plasma, 1 VirGen, 1 Empoleon/Miltank
  • Singapore
    • Winner: Pyroar/Charizard
    • Top Cut: 3 Yveltal, 1 Plasma, 2 VirGen, 1 Pyroar/Charizard, 1 Flygon/Dusknoir

Note: I have put all Plasma decks together and all Yveltal (with and without Garbodor) together because they are essentially the same deck and if we split the decks up too much it’s hard to gather much interesting data. I also am only going by the first two weeks, as that’s when I wrote this.

This gives us the following totals:

Total Winners

  • 6 Yveltal, 3 Plasma, 2 Pyroar, 1 VirGen

Total Cuts from the Big Three

  • 41 Yveltal (cut 12/12 tournaments)
  • 15 VirGen (cut 9/12 tournaments)
  • 11 Plasma (cut 10/12 tournaments)

Total Top Cuts from the Others

  • 5 Aromatisse, 5 Miltank, 3 Pyroar, 2 Trevenant, 1 Palkia, 2 Blastoise, 1 Rayboar, 1 Aggron, 1 Flareon, 1 Garchomp, 1 Big Basics, 1 Weavile, 1 Flygon/Dusknoir

There are several important things that we should note from this to add some much needed context:

  • In week 1 VirGen cut in 5/6 Nationals, but only 4/6 in week 2.
  • In week 2 Plasma doubled its top cuts and increased to second for wins (3). It also cut all 6 tournaments in week 2 (Yveltal was the only other deck that did that).
  • No Trevenant or Rayboar cut in week 2.
  • Only 1 Blastoise cut in week 2 (bring it to 2 total in 12 National championships!).
  • Weavile and Flygon/Dusknoir got a top cut each (which is AWESOME!).
  • Pyroar only cut 3 times, but it won two of them!
  • Pyroar still only has 3 top cuts from 12 Nationals, which is currently insufficient to show a trend.
  • Aromatisse was my 4th best deck after week 1, but only got one new cut in week 2 (it only cut 3 of the 12 Nationals).
  • Both the Trevenant top cuts were in Italy (showing a trend only within one country).
  • Miltank only cut in France during week 1, before cutting two Nationals in week 2 (I do not yet buy this as an international trend).

Looking at the data we can say, with some certainty, that there are three top decks:

  1. Yveltal
  2. Plasma
  3. VirGen

Note: Plasma and VirGen are interchangeable and neither is a clear-cut number 2. Plasma has more wins, has cut at a greater number of tournaments, and did better in week 2 (a good indicator that the format is changing in favor of it, or more people are playing it, showing it to be better), but VirGen still has more top cuts. I’m putting Plasma number 2, but I won’t be offended if you switch them around.

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One thing I really want to point out here is that my top three is based on nothing more than facts. There is no speculation or argument here. Of course, the format does not remain static, so this is nothing more than a snapshot right now. Any number of things could happen to change this.

There are plenty of other decks (Aromatisse, Miltank, Pyroar) that show promise, but until they start proving this by performing better at the National Championships that are happening, I’m afraid I cannot add them into my “top decks” list.

So, with all of that said, my top choice for US Nationals would be….


I think the old-school Plasma deck TDK is the one to go for and here are my reasons:

1. Speed.

TDK is fast and can often steal quick wins. This is very nice in a tournament that is likely to be 9 rounds, then 5 more rounds in top 32, then top 8, where every round is 50 minutes best-of-three. Winning a few games very quickly will be very nice for your mental health at this tournament! Not only that, but a lot of decks cannot lose Game 1 and win two quick games, this one can.

Check out how fast this win was:

2. I think it can be made to beat Yveltal.

  • Thundurus + Muscle Band + 2 Deoxys + Virbank City Gym + Hypnotoxic Laser = 170 damage on Yveltal! (You may notice that Yveltal has 170 HP.)
  • If they load Yveltal up with Energy, then Deoxys has a very nice attack (30 + 30 for each energy on Yveltal and then you can add Muscle Band and Laserbank to that).
  • Kyurem can hit 1HKOs with Blizzard burn (120 + Muscle Band + Deoxys + Laserbank).

As well as the above, here’s another video showing TDK playing an Yveltal deck:

3. Options.

This deck is incredibly techable. For instance, you can add Heatran-EX to help against Virizion/Genesect, you can add Absol as a low-Energy non-EX attacker, you can add Promo Landorus to help against Darkrai or in the mirror against other Thunduruses (it’s a word), etc.

There are other good things about the deck, but hopefully you get the idea. It’s a fast, consistent deck with options that I think should be able to beat the best and most played deck in the format the majority of the time, and that can only be a good thing.

“What about Plasma/Lugia?”

Now I know that many people prefer the Lugia build, but there a few reasons I don’t like it as much:

  1. Raichu XY is a good counter that more people are playing.
  2. Garbodor LTR is a good counter that MANY people are playing.
  3. The need for 4 Energy on Lugia makes it very susceptible to Enhanced Hammer (TDK can use basic Lightning and Water to alleviate this fear a little, as well as power up attackers in one turn with one Energy attachment and maybe a Colress Machine).

“Can I have a list please?”

FINE! This is not purported to be a great list, but it IS the one it have been playing around with on PTCGO and its running pretty consistently and doing pretty well for me. It’s not perfect and I doubt this will be the final list it move forward with, but, as you asked so nicely, here ya go:

Pokémon – 10

4 Deoxys-EX

3 Thundurus-EX

2 Kyurem PLF

1 Genesect-EX

Trainers – 37

4 Professor Juniper

4 N

2 Colress

3 Bicycle

1 Pal Pad

2 Skyla

1 Lysandre


3 Ultra Ball

1 Team Plasma Ball

4 Muscle Band

3 Colress Machine

3 Escape Rope

1 Scramble Switch


4 Hypnotoxic Laser

1 Virbank City Gym

Energy – 13

4 Plasma

4 Prism

3 Rainbow

2 L

I won’t write loads about my choices, but here’s a video where I explain them:

Other cards that could put in:

Absol PLF

I like Absol, but it leaves the damage output in your opponent’s hands, which makes me a little nervous. To be fair though, MANY decks now need a fair few Pokémon on the Bench at all times.

Landorus BW79

He has a nice attack that does 20 for FC (raised to 50 if you can match hand sizes), which can be nice against Fighting-Weak Pokémon, but this can also be a bit of pain to actually get working. It’s not always going to be possible to hit for enough damage. As with all Plasma Pokémon, Muscle Band, Deoxys and Laserbank will help, but you need to match hand sizes way too often for my liking.


I’m not a huge fan of this one, but it can help you VirGen matchup because you’ll be getting 1HKOs for 3 Energy. Saying that, you might not get it going too fast and there’s always the risk that Genesect will get a G Booster and 1HKO you right back. That will kind of defeat the entire point of running it. Scramble Switch will help, but it’s not still not my favorite. Plus, I don’t think the VirGen matchup is any worse than 50-50 without it.

Latias-EX (Or, How to Deal with Pyroar)

The elephant in the room that I’ve not spoken about yet is Pyroar (I say elephant, but he’s a lion, which ironically, is the natural predator of the elephant). He blocks attacks from Basic Pokémon and the entire Plasma deck is based around Basic Pokémon. Latias-EX has an awkward attack, BUT he can hit Pyroar and Pyroar can’t hit him back. Honestly, this is the only Pyroar counter I would run.

I would be running Lysandre and Pal Pad as well as Genesect-EX and Escape Rope (see list above) and I would just Catcher around Pyroar and use Latias if my opponent went full bore with Pyroar. I would also recommend Scramble Switch to help get Latias going. I am considering an article on dealing with Pyroar as a Plasma player, so let me know if that’s something you’d be interested in.

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“Why Scramble Switch?”

I like having an extra switch card, especially with Deoxys being such a Catcher target (Retreat Cost of 2 can be awkward) and I like the plays that this can set up. I just like it, though I wouldn’t blame anyone for playing Computer Search or Dowsing Machine.

“Why no Shadow Triad?”

As I said in my video, there are basically no times where I’d rather have a Shadow Triad over a Lysandre and I don’t have the room to play both. I am looking to add a 2nd Lysandre (maybe by cutting a Muscle Band) and I would do that long before adding a Shadow Triad.

I hope you enjoyed this and/or found it useful. I’ve seen a few people bemoaning the lack of quality non-Underground articles, so here’s a 2,000-word article with videos to back up some of my points. If you like it, let me know and I might even write some more.

Also, please remember take a minute or two to check out my podcast and YouTube channel (and subscribe and all that). I reckon they’re pretty good and I hope you agree.

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