Tier 1 Virizion EX, Genesect EX

Discussion in 'Competitive Deck Discussion' started by Serperior, Aug 14, 2013.

  1. baby_mario

    baby_mario Doesn't even care

    Nah, we've been through the OMGTHISISBDIF4EVA stage and now we're at the LOLDARKRAI LV X/LOST WORLD/FLUFFYCHOMP stage.

    It will end up being somewhere between the two, as always.
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  2. And I could talk about the other until I'm hoarse.
  3. baby_mario

    baby_mario Doesn't even care

    Doesn't look remotely like a horse. Try 'deer' based puns instead.
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  4. Joai

    Joai Grinded into Worlds 2011...

    funny guys ay, lol?
  5. Shibumi

    Shibumi I can typing

    Well, deer, I can't think of puns when you put me on the spot like that.
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2013
  6. Googleplex

    Googleplex Rule #3: Wear your heart on your cheek

    Oh deer.

    That said, can't see a use for more than 2 Virizion in this deck. Turn 2 Genesect is a lot easier to hit with two attachments and a Colress Machine. Also, it's been said a thousand times but Skyarrow Bridge is really sick in this deck, free retreat is awesome.

    Main problem I have for with this deck is lack of an answer to Quad Suicune/ Sigilyph or that Suicune/ Terrakion deck (G-Booster every turn isn'y realistic), as well as a shaky Blastoise matchup.
  7. baby_mario

    baby_mario Doesn't even care

  8. Kirbyswag

    Kirbyswag Pie

    How many enhanced hammer is standard in this deck?
  9. Shibumi

    Shibumi I can typing

    baby_mario as far as Tropius goes, I'd say mediocre at best. Its first attack can be easily replaced by Topical Beach, which would actually be better, ad it's second attack it a worse version of Deoxys's attack. I would rather tech bouffalant for against sigi since it can be useful in other match ups as well, yet Tropius could be good against blastoise if you could somehow pull off the magical Plasma badge/Colress machine/Grass energy surprise.
  10. Googleplex

    Googleplex Rule #3: Wear your heart on your cheek

    Yeah, I got him in. I dunno how many is appropriate, though.
  11. WuBMaYNE

    WuBMaYNE You Need More Minerals

    I'd say the best line for this deck going into BR's would probably be...

    Virizion EX x 4
    Genesect EX x 3
    Tropius x 2

    At least that's what I think so far. There's so much room in this deck though, that's what makes this deck still viable and fun.
  12. SkaterTrainer

    SkaterTrainer New Member

    My list, super consistent doesn't hit as hard as like some who choose to virbank laser but it hits fast

    PKMN
    3 Genosect EX
    3 Virizon EX
    3 Tropius

    S/S/T
    2 Skyarrow
    4 Juniper
    4 N
    4 Bicycle
    2 Shadow Triad
    1 G-Booster
    4 Pokemon Catcher
    4 Switch
    4 Colress Machine
    4 Ultra Ball
    3 Team Plasma Badge

    Energy
    10 Grass
    4 Plasma

    Might go -1 Tropius +1 Virizon EX with further testing also might drop fourth switch for enhanced hammer and work from here since its consistent, 4 switch is too many.
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2013
  13. GreenPepper

    GreenPepper Badly addicted to League of Legends

    You don't need Switch at all. You won't need to switch out of special conditions, and with SAB, everything has free retreat.
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  14. RJCarrot

    RJCarrot Poke Breeder Extrodinare.

    Pokemon - 12

    4 Virizion EX PLB
    4 Genesect EX PLB
    2 Genesect PLB
    2 Kyurem EX ND

    Trainers - 31

    4 Professor Juniper
    4 N
    4 Skyla
    1 Colress
    2 Shadow Triad
    1 G Booster
    3 Pokemon Catcher
    3 Ultra Ball
    2 Skyarrow Bridge
    1 Max Potion
    2 Super Rod
    1 Energy Search
    2 Float Stone
    1 Tool Scrapper

    Energy - 17

    9 Grass Energy
    1 Water Energy
    4 Prism Energy
    3 Plasma Energy

    Major differences include:

    2x Genesect PLB - Allows you to set up if you whiff as well as gives you a strong non EX attacker if needed.

    2x Kyurem EX ND - Gives you energy removal for TDK which is nice, and gives you something that can play on a fire weakness without getting owned because it has a Grass Weakness.
  15. myrealname

    myrealname New Member

    Am i the only who thinks this deck is overrated? Its way to clunky. On average it took me 3 turns to setup genesect, by then your opponent is attacking.
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  16. baby_mario

    baby_mario Doesn't even care

    No. That is what everyone and their mum are posting.

    It is not a speed deck, and shouldn't be played like one.
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  17. RJCarrot

    RJCarrot Poke Breeder Extrodinare.

    This man is correct and both statements are true. A+
  18. WuBMaYNE

    WuBMaYNE You Need More Minerals


    I feel like you know something I don't. You have to tell me where you're taking this deck, I need to see it!
  19. Ziggmiceter

    Ziggmiceter Ultimate 6P tournament procrastinator

    Sounds like just wanting to netdeck from a good player, but I don't think I've ever seen baby_mario post a decklist on 6P forums, and I've been here for over a year. Asking for lists is generally frowned upon, too.
  20. pokemonguy

    pokemonguy Making Bad Last-Minute Changes Since Nats 2014

    That is why TDK is a bad match-up,they are already OHKO'ing/2HKO'ing your Pokemon when you start attacking.