WWXII - Pokemon TCG Mafia

Discussion in 'Mafia' started by PaidPyro, Dec 18, 2013.

  1. Vaxkiller

    Vaxkiller Member

    I have a big post incoming within the hour...[DOUBLEPOST=1392342478][/DOUBLEPOST]I haven't had advanced notice (like scum SMP would) that I would be alive today, he seems to have posted all sorts of nuggets through the game to accuse myself and others of later. SMP has been playing this game with a plan, a plan to buddy up or kill the better players, and to keep a few noobs alive to guarantee late game lynches.

    Seems very concerned about on who and if I used my doc cards, as well as neighborizer chat.[DOUBLEPOST=1392342612][/DOUBLEPOST]I'm working next on who he voted for to see if it matches up or helps with cabds vote analysis.
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2014
  2. PaidPyro

    PaidPyro Dead townie!

    Vote count 7.3.0 (as of post 1042)

    1 Vaxkiller (SMP) L-1
    1 SMP (Vaxkiller) L-1

    Not voting 1: (cabd)

    With 3 playing it requires 2 votes to determine the weakest player.
    NOTE Round 7 ends Saturday 2/15 at 8 PM CST

    V/LA: none
  3. SMP

    SMP Is bad at Werewolf

    I already said what I would have done last night if I were scum. I wouldn't have put a kill through in order to let all the doc cards and cabd's PGO card be used. It's not like we were going to vote for anyone with 4 players left.

    Quote these nuggets.

    Who have I buddied up to?

    Other than you, who's a newer player that was around at the end? Cabd? Mares? Glaceon? Kirby? The reason you're still around isn't because I had some master plan to bring you to final 3 (when in fact I was ready to lynch you instead of desu D3), it's because you're scum.

    I already said that asking if you held on to the doc card was sarcastic since you did hold onto one for 2! days before.

    I wanted to see the cabd/PH chat to confirm cabd. I was really looking for a post by PH stating that he weak neighborized cabd. What other information was I going to obtain from a neighborhood that stopped 4 days ago? Read lists where 2/3 the people are dead? cabd's N1 role card? Please tell me what information I would have gotten from it?
  4. cabd

    cabd Taking over for Tamoo as the girly looking mod.

    A question for both of you:

    At what point in the game (post number) did you town read me?

    At what point in the game (post number) did you scumread the other?
  5. Vaxkiller

    Vaxkiller Member

  6. SMP

    SMP Is bad at Werewolf

    I thought you were town once PH flipped 706
    Then I questioned it since everything seemed to fit a little too perfectly for you with a PGO card.
    Then you were town again once you didn't hammer Vax today.

    Initial suspicion of Vax here 716
    I thought PP101's post here was interesting too 736. It looked like Vax thought scum drew different cards for some reason.
    Pretty sure Vax was scum along with desu here 800
  7. Vaxkiller

    Vaxkiller Member

    I do think scum draw different cards (its pokemon vs hearthstone), most likely the get stuff more beneficial for the scum. I can prove that I used a pokemon card and used it on dag (wipe clean), as well as the warp points. I also had 2 docs, unfortunately there doesn't seem a way prove this. Why would I lie about it tho, to what advantage does it give the supposed "scum" version of me to have a more than likely town cabd around at the end of the game?

    I read a little back and I noticed this post:

    How convenient of you to only get piplups, except once, and then it was stolen???
  8. SMP

    SMP Is bad at Werewolf

    It's not like you could kill him without saying you didn't use your doc cards on him. Then last night he played you by saying he had a PGO.

    I've been saying I got piplups every day the whole game. It's not like that post was some new revelation.[DOUBLEPOST=1392399291][/DOUBLEPOST]That's most likely my last post until tomorrow, Valentine's Day and all that jazz.
  9. Vaxkiller

    Vaxkiller Member

    Its just "convenient" to not have drawn any useful cards, just piplups, and a doc that was stolen. Which would be easy to explain since we already talked about doc's being blissy cards.
  10. PaidPyro

    PaidPyro Dead townie!

    Vote count 7.4.0 (as of post 1050)

    1 Vaxkiller (SMP) L-1
    1 SMP (Vaxkiller) L-1

    Not voting 1: (cabd)

    With 3 playing it requires 2 votes to determine the weakest player.
    NOTE Round 7 ends Saturday 2/15 at 8 PM CST

    V/LA: none
  11. cabd

    cabd Taking over for Tamoo as the girly looking mod.

    I'm hammering tomorrow morning, with my decision.[DOUBLEPOST=1392441599][/DOUBLEPOST]I think I'm actually close to decided, you two can make your final closing statements if you wish.[DOUBLEPOST=1392455546][/DOUBLEPOST]Vablakes



    http://www.sixprizes.com/forums/threads/wwxii-pokemon-tcg-mafia.11006/page-10#post-216485



    QFT's a vaxkiller post.



    http://www.sixprizes.com/forums/threads/wwxii-pokemon-tcg-mafia.11006/page-16#post-216853



    Replies to vax with a "i'm scumreading you" sort of reply













    http://www.sixprizes.com/forums/threads/wwxii-pokemon-tcg-mafia.11006/page-16#post-216865



    Interaction with SMP here would be scum theater if SMPscum.



    http://www.sixprizes.com/forums/threads/wwxii-pokemon-tcg-mafia.11006/page-17#post-216879



    Pushes Vaxkiller for a "scumslip"







    Desufnoc




    Both scum busing vax if vaxscum.







    Big casewall on vax here.







    This is hawkie's reaction to the vax push.







    The added posts sound more like scum covering up for when town flips than a buddy.





    This smells more like a bus. Does he ever follow up the SMP line of questioning?





    ...Oh. No he doesn't, he only comments on the other two.\







    Here's the vax push once more, right before death.[DOUBLEPOST=1392455991][/DOUBLEPOST]
    [DOUBLEPOST=1392456466][/DOUBLEPOST]Vote count 1.6.0 (as of post 457)



    6 HighShroomish (kirbyswag, Vaxkiller, SMP, Prohawk, daGlaceon, Cabd ) L-1

    2 Vaxkiller (Desufnoc , Vablakes) L-5

    1 Desufnoc (GuyInFreezer) L-6


    1 camoclone (PokemonPlayer101) L-6


    1 kirbyswag (HighShroomish) L-6




    Note voting 2: (Mares789, camoclone)
    [DOUBLEPOST=1392457155][/DOUBLEPOST]Closing thoughts:
    [spoiler=Show Closing Thoughts]
    You've both played extremely well, and if I get this hammer wrong, then you deserve it for pulling out the win. Several things lead me to make this hammer vote.

    First of all, the "rule of three" states any scum-given list of three usually has one buddy due to psychology. There was such a list featuring two now flipped town and SMP. Secondly, and most importantly IMO, is the wagon formation on day one. If both scum voted for the third, I'm going to be really impressed and you guys deserve the win completely. I was debating but in the end settled on it being more likely that it was an attempt to be off the HS wagon once it flipped town to avoid scrutiny. Thirdly, Desu brings up potential SMP scum, but then drops it entirely in his follow-ups without explanation or context. Fourthly, post 379 smells like awkward cover-up for when Vax were to flip town. Fifth, is sheeping both my town neighbors. Both hawkie and mares were all about it being SMP. I won't blame them if this is me picking wrong, but their reads are the reads of confirmed town. (Also, hawkie's meta insights tend to be right (yes hawkie I remember muffin in marketplace) on the money)

    That said, either way, this will go down in 6P history as probably one of the best games played here as far as both teams being evenly matched. Many thanks to JP and KP for a most amusing setup mechanic. If vax is scum, he's managed to completely invert his scum meta, and I am both impressed and very excited to see a player quickly master the game, and look forward to drawing scum with him next time. (You're a really improved player regardless Vax)
    [/spoiler]

    VOTE: SMP
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2014
  12. PaidPyro

    PaidPyro Dead townie!

    As the final three players came together for the last round, Vaxkiller and SMP wanted to duel. Cabd graciously allow Vaxkiller and SMP play each other while he watched. Cabd watched closely as SMP and Vaxkiller played trying to determine who was the weakest player left. He knew he would be able to detect the Hearthstone player.

    The game finished up and cabd had decided, it would be SMP.

    SMP raged at the declaration and flipped the table. SMP stormed out without saying anything else.

    Vaxkiller smiled and breathed a sigh of relief. Vaxkiller high fived cabd in victory. "What a day, lets go get a drink!" Vaxkiller said to cabd.

    "Yeah let's celebrate our pokemon victory" cabd fired back smiling for cheek to cheek.

    As the two walked to the door, they knew they made the right choice. Cabd walked through the door first, but Vaxkiller didn't continue. Cabd turned to see what happened. Before he could open the door, Vaxkiller quickly threw the dead bolt.

    [spoiler]Vaxkiller was victorious.

    SMP was town.
    Cabd was town and end gamed by Vaxkiller.


    Mafia wins!
    Vaxkiller
    Vablakes
    Desufnoc
    [/spoiler]
  13. PaidPyro

    PaidPyro Dead townie!

    Day 1:
    HighShroomish lynch as town

    Night 1:
    [spoiler]
    Prohawk pack 21 - create neighborhood
    Kirbyswag pack 6 - seer
    desufnoc pack 51 - common
    camoclone pack 33 - common
    deglaceon pack 7 - common
    mares789 pack 1 - common
    smp pack 24 - common
    vablakes pack 23 - doc
    cabd pack 42 - common
    vaxkiller pack 60 - doc
    guyinfreezer pack 27 - post modification instant
    PP101 pack 16 - common

    Actions:
    Prohawk create neighborhood with cabd
    Kirbyswag seers PP101 (result is town)
    Vablakes docs Vaxkiller
    Vaxkiller does not use doc.

    Vaxkiller kills GuyinFreezer [/spoiler]

    Day 2:
    Vablakes is lynched as mafia

    night 2:
    [spoiler]cabd pack 12 - common
    kirbyswag pack 38 - post modification give
    mares789 pack 4 - common
    daglaceon pack 58 - common
    desufnoc pack 46 - common
    prohawk pack 36 - common
    vaxkiller pack 59 - pack switch
    smp pack 29 - common
    camoclone pack 54 - pack switch
    PP101 pack 57 - post modification removal

    Actions:
    camoclone switches packs with cabd got a common piplup
    vaxkiller switches packs with PP101 and gets post modification removal.
    kirbyswag gives daglaceon a post modification
    vaxkiller does not use doc card.

    Vaxkiller kills Prohawk [/spoiler]

    Day 3:
    Vaxkiller uses post modification removal on daglaceon
    desufunoc lynched as mafia

    Night 3:
    [spoiler]
    cabd pack 30 - create neighborhood
    daglaceon pack 49 - common
    smp pack 9 - common
    mares789 pack 13 - common
    PP101 pack 34 - seer
    Sal34 pack 52 - common
    Vaxkiller pack 56 - pack switch
    kirbyswag pack 25 - common

    Actions:
    Vaxkiller switches packs with Mares789 got a common piplup
    cabd creates neighborhood with Mares789
    PP101 seers Sal34 gets result of town
    Vaxkiller docs cabd

    Vaxkiller kills PP101 [/spoiler]

    Day 4:
    Salamencetrainer34 lynched as town

    Night 4:
    [spoiler]
    kirbyswag pack 47 - pack switch
    mares789 pack 15 - easy lynch
    smp pack 19 - doc
    daglaceon pack 18 - common
    vaxkiller pack 55 - doc
    cabd pack 8 - common

    Actions:
    kirbyswag switches packs with smp and gets a doc
    kirbyswag uses doc on cabd
    vaxkiller does not use doc

    Vaxkiller kills Kirbyswag [/spoiler]

    Day 5 - No Lynch

    Night 5:
    [spoiler]
    mares789 pack 31 - common
    daglaceon pack 48 - common
    cabd pack 3 - post modification removal
    smp pack 44 - common
    vaxkiller pack 53 - common

    Actions:
    cabd does not use post modification removal
    vaxkiller does not use doc

    vaxkiller kills daglaceon [/spoiler]

    Day 6 - No Lynch

    Night 6:
    [spoiler]smp pack 11 - common
    mares789 pack 41 - common
    vaxkiller pack 50 - common
    cabd pack 17 - common

    Actions:
    cabd does not use post modification removal
    vaxkiller does not use doc

    vaxkiller kills mares789 [/spoiler]

    Day 7 -
    [spoiler]SMP lynched as town
    Vaxkiller end games cabd[/spoiler]
  14. PaidPyro

    PaidPyro Dead townie!

    [spoiler=pack breakdown]
    Packs nomenclature: pack number (pack art) .... if claimed by who (pack contents).
    Pack X (Empoleon) .... Claimed by Kpiplup (common)

    Pack 1 (Blastoise) .... Claimed by Mares789 (common)
    Pack 2 (Goldeen) .... (common)
    Pack 3 (Bergmite) .... Claimed by cabd (post modification removal)
    Pack 4 (Hippopotas) .... Claimed by Mares789 (common)
    Pack 5 (Goldeen) .... (common)
    Pack 6 (Blastoise) .... Claimed by Kirbyswag (seer)
    Pack 7 (Blastoise) .... Claimed by DaGlaceon (common)
    Pack 8 (Blastoise) .... Claimed by cabd (common)
    Pack 9 (Hippopotas) .... Claimed by SMP (common)
    Pack 10 (Goldeen) .... (common)
    Pack 11 (Goldeen) .... Claimed by SMP (common)
    Pack 12 (Bergmite) .... Claimed by cabd (common)
    Pack 13 (Bergmite) .... Claimed by Mares789 (common)
    Pack 14 (Hippopotas) .... (seer)
    Pack 15 (Hippopotas) .... Claimed by Mares789 (easy lynch)
    Pack 16 (Blastoise) .... Claimed by PokemonPlayer101 (common)
    Pack 17 (Hippopotas) .... Claimed by cabd (common)
    Pack 18 (Bergmite) .... Claimed by DaGlaceon (common)
    Pack 19 (Hippopotas) .... Claimed by SMP (doc)
    Pack 20 (Blastoise) .... (common)
    Pack 21 (Bergmite) .... Claimed by Prohawk (create neighborhood)
    Pack 22 (Hippopotas) .... (common)
    Pack 23 (Hippopotas) .... Claimed by Vablakes (doc)
    Pack 24 (Goldeen) .... Claimed by SMP (common)
    Pack 25 (Bergmite) .... Claimed by kirbyswag (common)
    Pack 26 (Blastoise) .... (1 extra vote)
    Pack 27 (Blastoise) .... Claimed by GuyInFreezer (post modification instant)
    Pack 28 (Hippopotas) .... (common)
    Pack 29 (Bergmite) .... Claimed by SMP (common)
    Pack 30 (Goldeen) .... Claimed by cabd (create neighborhood)
    Pack 31 (Blastoise) .... Claimed by Mares789 (common)
    Pack 32 (Hippopotas) .... (seer)
    Pack 33 (Bergmite) .... Claimed by camoclone (common)
    Pack 34 (Goldeen) .... Claimed by PokemonPlayer101 (seer)
    Pack 35 (Bergmite) ....(common)
    Pack 36 (Goldeen) .... Claimed by Prohawk (common)
    Pack 37 (Goldeen) .... (common)
    Pack 38 (Goldeen) .... Claimed by Kirbyswag (post modification give)
    Pack 39 (Goldeen) .... (day vig)
    Pack 40 (Goldeen) .... (common)
    Pack 41 (Hippopotas) .... Claimed by Mares789 (common)
    Pack 42 (Blastoise) .... Claimed by cabd (common)
    Pack 43 (Hippopotas) .... (common)
    Pack 44 (Blastoise) .... Claimed by SMP (common)
    Pack 45 (Hippopotas) .... (common)
    Pack 46 (Bergmite) .... Claimed by desufnoc (common)
    Pack 47 (Blastoise) .... Claimed by Kirbyswag (pack switch)
    Pack 48 (Blastoise) .... Claimed by DaGlaceon (common)
    Pack 49 (Bergmite) .... Claimed by DaGlaceon (common)
    Pack 50 (Bergmite) ..... Claimed by Vaxkiller (common)
    Pack 51 (Hippopotas) .... Claimed by desufnoc (common)
    Pack 52 (Bergmite) .... Claimed by Salamencetrainer34 (common)
    Pack 53 (Goldeen) .... Claimed by Vaxkiller (common)
    Pack 54 (Bergmite) .... Claimed by camoclone (pack switch)
    Pack 55 (Blastoise) .... Claimed by Vaxkiller (doc)
    Pack 56 (Goldeen) .... Claimed by Vaxkiller (pack switch)
    Pack 57 (Blastoise) .... Claimed by PokemonPlayer101 (post modification removal)
    Pack 58 (Goldeen) .... Claimed by DaGlaceon (common)
    Pack 59 (Bergmite) .... Claimed by Vaxkiller (pack switch)
    Pack 60 (Hippopotas) .... Claimed by Vaxkiller (doc)[/spoiler]
  15. PaidPyro

    PaidPyro Dead townie!

    Pack contents:
    common -
    [spoiler]It's just a common Piplup.[/spoiler]
    seer -
    [spoiler]It's the old trainer card Lookers Investigation.

    Ability: Seer (1-shot)
    Durning a night phase you may chose to learn the alignment of one of your fellow players. You may only use this ability once. Use this role conversation to let KP and I know your selection.[/spoiler]
    doc-
    [spoiler]It's a Blissy card.

    Ability: Doc (1-shot)
    Durning a night phase you may protect one of your fellow players from the night kill. You may not target yourself. You may only use this ability once. Please let KP and I know in this convo who you chose to use it on.[/spoiler]
    create neighborhood -
    [spoiler]You open a butterfree, with an ability.

    Ability: Create Neighborhood
    You are a social Butterfree. You are allowed to communicate with one additional player of your choosing. You must choose this one player tonight. Please use this role conversation to let us know and we will create the neighborhood for you to use.[/spoiler]
    pack switch-
    [spoiler]It's a Warp Point.

    Ability: Switch
    You may choose to switch packs with another player tonight. Please choose who that player is. You will receive their pack and any action it may contain. They will receive this pack, however, this card will now be vanilla. You must use this card in 24 hours. If you fail to use this card it will become a common piplup.[/spoiler]
    post modification removal-
    [spoiler]It was an Unown ?.

    Ability: Wipe Clean (1-shot)
    Post Modifications are SO ANNOYING. You may remove one post modification from a player of your choosing at any point in the game (as long as you are alive). Please use this role conversation to let KP and I know who's your target (if you chose to use it).[/spoiler]
    easy lynch-
    [spoiler]it's an Old Amber!

    Ability: Easy lynch
    You are like a 10hp fossil card. During the next day phase you are an easy lynch. You will be lynched at 1 less than majority. Don't get to L-1 (or you're done ). [/spoiler]
    post modification instant-
    [spoiler]Ability: OVERKILL! (Post modification)

    Dude, have you seen this card. When this bad boy hits the table you will hit for 300 points of base damage. If they are are week x4, that's like 1,200 points of damage. BOOM!!!! OH THEY POTENTIAL! Unfortunately, it takes 5 types of different energy and can only be used if you haven't taken any prizes.

    Your pack contained a post modification. Yep, as you can see from above you are that guy from league. There's always someone like this at league. From this point forward in each one of your public posts, you MUST add some flavor text about some ridiculous combo or high damage attack, that NO competitive player would ever use in a real game. Pick any card or cards you would like to talk about that are like this.
    Anything goes, be creative and we won't stop you at just one card (or even real cards). You may add your flavor anywhere in your post but it must be there.

    Even if you "double (multiple) post", you must include this flavor.

    If you fail to adhere to this there will be a progressive penalty system:
    1. Private warning
    2. Loss of your choice for a pack (you will still get one but random.org will decide)
    3. loss of any "positive" power which you may obtain for a pack.
    4. Loss of vote
    5. Final private warning.
    6. MODKILL. [/spoiler]
    post modification given -
    [spoiler]What in the pack:
    It's Hypnotoxic Laser, that annoying thing. You must choose a player other than yourself to give a post restriction to. Please use this role conversation to identify who the "lucky" recipient is. You must decide who this person is tonight and it must be used.

    What the receiving player saw:
    you were handed an extra pack!

    As you open your pack you can't believe your eyes! It's the most unbelievable card ever. You are so lucky you got this extra pack.

    Ability: BEST CARD EVER!
    Like, OMG I can believe you just got this card. It's like the best card EVER!!!! This card is EPIC. It works in any deck and will completely ruin your opponent. I can't believe this actually happened to you! Oh and this card is sooooo out of date it's completely worthless to normal competitive play.

    You have been given a post modification. Yep, as you can see from above you are that guy from league. There's always someone like this at league. From this point forward in each one of your public posts, you MUST add some flavor text about a super terrific, fantastic card which is not currently in this years modified legal(Next Destinies - on). It needs to be clear this card is OMG terrific and why! Anything goes, be creative and we won't stop you at just one card. You may add your flavor anywhere in your post but it must be there.

    If you "double (multiple) post", you must include this flavor in your double posts as well.

    If you fail to adhere to this there will be a progressive penalty system:
    1. Private warning
    2. Loss of your choice for a pack (you will still get one but random.org will decide)
    3. loss of any "positive" power which you may obtain for a pack.
    4. Loss of vote
    5. Final private warning.
    6. MODKILL. [/spoiler]
    Extra vote-
    [spoiler]It's the old trainer card twins.
    Ability: One extra sticky vote (1 time use)
    During the day you may chose to use this additional vote. This vote does not count as your normal vote. When you are ready to use this vote, please use this role conversation to identify who you will vote for like this:

    Sticky Vote: (player name) [/spoiler]
    day vig-
    [spoiler]Ability: Plant evidence....aka Day Vig (1-shot)
    There is a zero tolerance store policy against cheating. Being slightly devious you have the ability to plant evidence on a fellow player that they are cheating. You may only do this once during a day phase. Once you are ready to use this role, please use this role conversation to identify who you will plant evidence on. That player will be removed from the store immediately! [/spoiler]
  16. PaidPyro

    PaidPyro Dead townie!

    I just wanted to say thank you to you all for playing this game and a special thank you to KPiplup. KP, you were a tremendous help behind the scenes! A+ for you! It was a pleasure to be your mod and I hope you all had fun this game. I will be back later to drop some final thoughts and comments later. First, I will be working on opening up the scum chat and neighborhoods. I would also love to have any constructive feedback for my modding and the overall game set-up.
  17. KPiplup

    KPiplup An Imposter

    Congrats to Vax on the win.

    Thank you all for playing, it was enjoyable to watch/mod. Thanks to PaidPyro, it was enjoyable modding with you.
  18. HighShroomish

    HighShroomish Wreck-It Ralts

    Vax that was amazing. Really well played.
  19. Good going, Vax!

    I'm still a bit bitter about not being able to defend against my Lynch, but it was a good game all around.
  20. SMP

    SMP Is bad at Werewolf

    Seriously cabd?